Lanette Creamer a.k.a. Testy Redhead is a consulting software tester who is passionate about collaborative testing and is a practicing student of the context driven school. She has 12 years software industry experience. She is a frequent presenter at testing conferences and writes articles occasionally in
addition to her blog.
18 Dec 2009Lanette wrote:
Yes! I am so glad you brought this up. I saw that and thought, "This is a bug!" However, on more investigation is it NOT a bug because there is more. If I turn off polls it will not have more, but it also will not ask you if you liked it or not. I ask this because I want to go back and see every few months what people thought. Usually I find if people strongly dislike something it is because they don't like what it was associated with, not because they didn't like the post itself (at least so far). Some posts had people vote that they had no opinion. That to me is worse than a dislike. If you actively didn't care I inspired ambivalence, what a waste of time for the reader.
Anyhow, so there is "more" under the cut, just not more text. Do you think it is a bug, or that the design that the poll is always hidden is a poor design? Reply to this
18 Dec 2009Lanette wrote:
Thanks! Yes, this is a great description of why it is impossible. I read a blog with this title that was very long and I thought I needed to weigh in with my true thought on the matter. This is the entire bulk of my thoughts on it. I want to close the topic with no and talk about what we can do in the time we have instead. Reply to this
When you open http://blog.testyredhead.com/ and see this post, you can see <>> and there is "NO" MORE in the post
Shrini
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Yes! I am so glad you brought this up. I saw that and thought, "This is a bug!" However, on more investigation is it NOT a bug because there is more. If I turn off polls it will not have more, but it also will not ask you if you liked it or not. I ask this because I want to go back and see every few months what people thought. Usually I find if people strongly dislike something it is because they don't like what it was associated with, not because they didn't like the post itself (at least so far). Some posts had people vote that they had no opinion. That to me is worse than a dislike. If you actively didn't care I inspired ambivalence, what a waste of time for the reader.
Anyhow, so there is "more" under the cut, just not more text. Do you think it is a bug, or that the design that the poll is always hidden is a poor design?
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LOL!
Dr Kaner wasn't *quite* as concise - http://www.kaner.com/pdfs/impossible.pdf
I think you captured the essence, though!
I've only recently encountered your blog but, after browsing through some past entries, I'm now officially hooked!
All the best,
Frank
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...and if I gave the link to the article instead of just the slides, that might make more sense!
http://www.kaner.com/pdfs/imposs.pdf
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Thanks! Yes, this is a great description of why it is impossible. I read a blog with this title that was very long and I thought I needed to weigh in with my true thought on the matter. This is the entire bulk of my thoughts on it. I want to close the topic with no and talk about what we can do in the time we have instead.
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Completely agree.
You *never* have enough time to do all the testing you want to do. Therefore you must do the best test you can in the time that you have.
However, I think your "No" summed it up quite elegantly!
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Shakespeare said that "brevity is the soul of wit". Looks like you nailed it
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This reminds me of Chapter 19 in Lisa Crispin's first book, Testing Extreme Programming.
Chapter 19's title is: Manual Tests.
The content is: No manual tests.
Summary: No manual tests.
Exercise: What about manual tests?
(Now, I believe that she's talking about those repeated, should-be-automated-kind-of-tests, before anyone gets their panties in a bunch)
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